Real Responses: Is New Manager Out of Bounds of Termination Rules?
unfair treatment at work

Actual Comments of Why Employees Leave

“The new manager told the team leaders that three of the women in our department (including me) were to be put in positions where they knew we would fail. One of the trainers told me they were told to nitpick every little thing we did so they could build a case to fire us.”

The Solution:

A quote like this raises at least two flags and potentially others.

The first question to ask is, “Does our business have “at-will” employees?”

If so, there is no need for management to “set people up to fail” before they can be fired. They can simply be fired. If the new manager comes in and decides that, for example, he or she has different people in mind for the positions currently being filled by the three targeted women, then they can be fired without making them miserable first and documenting “failure” on their records.

Perhaps the new manager came from a company based in a state that was not “at-will” or from a company with a union contract where employers had to show “cause” for firings. If cause is not needed at your company, the new manager needs to know that.

The fact that the exiting employee, in this case, alleges that three women were being targeted by the new manager certainly is the other flag. No matter what state your company is based in, you cannot fire people for illegal reasons such as discriminatory ones based on age, religious affiliation, ethnicity, or—potentially in this case—gender.

Does the new manager prefer not to work with women? That is not a legal reason to fire employees. We would recommend the legal team at this company investigate the situation to make sure that women are not being illegally targeted for termination based purely on gender.

In short, for “at-will” states: you don’t need a “reason” to fire, but you cannot fire for an illegal reason. Terminating people because they are women is an illegal reason. It’s discriminatory and a violation of employee rights.

The other potential flag: if the company does, in fact, need “cause” to fire employees because of a collective bargaining agreement or other reason, then that requirement was not met in this case and instead was falsely manufactured.

Setting people up to fail and intentionally creating “job strain,” such as not giving them the resources they need to succeed, is unfair treatment at work and would certainly fail to meet a “termination for cause” employment standard.

In any event, it may be prudent to undergo some sensitivity training with the new manager in question and to do a company-wide review of what does and does not constitute legal terminations moving forward. Because if accurately described by the exiting employee, this scenario is potentially illegal for two reasons—contract/state law “cause” violation and gender discrimination—and, at best, is bad business practice.

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